Prediabetes, Diabetes and Housing
Feb. 28th, 2023 10:42 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
walkitoutHere’s an odd one.
https://www.science.org/content/article/war-prediabetes-could-be-boon-pharma-it-good-medicine
I have some mixed feelings about this. It quotes John Ioannidis favorably, and during the pandemic he was pretty vocal in ways that people got pretty mad about and I just don’t know what to think of him.
I was kind of startled by this paragraph:
“A 2011 study in JAMA examined health outcomes in women living in stressful, low-income housing projects who had been randomized into three groups: One got a voucher for better housing and help moving, one a voucher for moving to any area without help, and a control group got neither. Women who got the most housing assistance suffered the least obesity and diabetes—over 20 years, about 15% had become diabetic, compared with 20% in the control group.”
I landed in this article because I got curious about old people (>80 years of age, come on, that is old, don’t argue with me) taking diabetes medication that they did not need (that doctors had told them they did not need). I had heard about a friend’s father doing this, and then I recently learned that I knew someone more closely related to me who was doing this. I wondered if this was common and tried to design a search to answer the question, failed, but ran across interesting other things such as this.
I guess we really should focus on housing first.
Also, I ran across one of those cool Danish studies about olds taking diabetes medication, when (if) they discontinued, when they died, lots of interesting statistics.
Basically, if you are taking medication for your diabetes or prediabetes or whatever, it is in hopes of benefiting about 7 years in the future from reduced risk of wtf. If you are over 75, it’s not clear whether there is any hope of there being such a benefit, and if you are well into your 80s, the odds are very much against living long enough to enjoy it, even if there would be one if you did.
I gotta say, revelatory. I love shit like this. Perspective is all.
https://www.science.org/content/article/war-prediabetes-could-be-boon-pharma-it-good-medicine
I have some mixed feelings about this. It quotes John Ioannidis favorably, and during the pandemic he was pretty vocal in ways that people got pretty mad about and I just don’t know what to think of him.
I was kind of startled by this paragraph:
“A 2011 study in JAMA examined health outcomes in women living in stressful, low-income housing projects who had been randomized into three groups: One got a voucher for better housing and help moving, one a voucher for moving to any area without help, and a control group got neither. Women who got the most housing assistance suffered the least obesity and diabetes—over 20 years, about 15% had become diabetic, compared with 20% in the control group.”
I landed in this article because I got curious about old people (>80 years of age, come on, that is old, don’t argue with me) taking diabetes medication that they did not need (that doctors had told them they did not need). I had heard about a friend’s father doing this, and then I recently learned that I knew someone more closely related to me who was doing this. I wondered if this was common and tried to design a search to answer the question, failed, but ran across interesting other things such as this.
I guess we really should focus on housing first.
Also, I ran across one of those cool Danish studies about olds taking diabetes medication, when (if) they discontinued, when they died, lots of interesting statistics.
Basically, if you are taking medication for your diabetes or prediabetes or whatever, it is in hopes of benefiting about 7 years in the future from reduced risk of wtf. If you are over 75, it’s not clear whether there is any hope of there being such a benefit, and if you are well into your 80s, the odds are very much against living long enough to enjoy it, even if there would be one if you did.
I gotta say, revelatory. I love shit like this. Perspective is all.