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Tuesday: Seasons 52, more locks and doors
May. 21st, 2024 11:00 pmI innocently decided, now that I have what I think is a good solution for the front door, to take a look at the door schedule in general. R. had trouble finding it in procore, so I pulled it out of the pdf of the conformance set.
Then I started reading Marvin website information about the multislide and similar. At first, I was really happy and excited, you know, the limerance of planning home construction/improvement/wtf. And then, the honeymoon period ended — this is getting shorter and shorter and shorter for me, which is probably good but feels jarring and painful — as I realized that while they offered window openers and closers (which I don’t really want) and while they offer lock sensors (which are mildly interesting, but again, don’t really care) on a variety of doors and windows, they only offer a door opener/closer on the multislide (which, weird, and I don’t want), and the lock logic on the multislide which you get _with_ the opener/closer seems unacceptable. Basically, there’s a manual, and if it is set, you are not getting in from outside until someone goes inside and unsets it. And there’s a magnetic, which has to be set and unset from a button, app, wtf. So if you are inside, and the magnetic lock is set, egress requires you to push a button and you’d better hope it works. Not Okay.
It’s fine not to have remote access on the multislide, and the Marvin multislide is gorgeous, so I’m not messing with that choice. On to the other perimeter doors! They are all Marvins except one Simpson that is the door from the house to the garage. I’ll probably ask for a smart lock on that door, but Simpson’s do not come with hardware, so that’s pretty straightforward.
The rest of the Marvins are a problem, tho! Marvin uses their own proprietary multipoint lock. They have at least one patent from 2018 (I wasn’t looking, I swear, I just stumbled across it) on their Amesbury Shoot. They do not offer a lock/unlock from app, keypad, card system, biometric sensor, nothing. Lots of people have tried to retrofit it, and _if_ anyone has succeeded, it was a complex project and the results were pretty ugly. They don’t meet _my_ aesthetic standards, and they would probably void the warranty anyway. The Marvin rep we are working with is “researching” the following question the architect posed:
“I've seen the lock status hardware for the doors on the Marvin website, and am wondering if there is a wi-fi/keypad enabled lock system that allows you to actually lock and unlock the door rather than just read the locked/unlocked status. If there is an off the shelf solution, is that something that the walkitouts could check out at the Boston showroom?”
What a polite and innocent question. What seething cauldron of Nope lies underneath it.
Honestly, the fact that all these beautiful doors with multipoint hardware don’t advertise their multipoint hardware AND don’t advertise how they have no “smart” lock/unlock solution and no intention of developing one any time soon says so much about this industry, where it’s been and where it is resisting going.
Anyway. Panolocks all around, probably, except for the multislide, which you just won’t be able to remote unlock.
A. went to her Homework Cafe after English instead of her first Algebra class. Ooops. No one got her either, which, really? Oh well. Hopefully that’s work on Thursday, since it’ll be her first class of the day because the English teacher isn’t available and I’d rather reschedule the session vs. have a virtual sub. The previous virtual sub (Spanish, on last Thursday) did not work well for A.
We had dinner at Seasons 52 (A. and me). It was delicious.
Then I started reading Marvin website information about the multislide and similar. At first, I was really happy and excited, you know, the limerance of planning home construction/improvement/wtf. And then, the honeymoon period ended — this is getting shorter and shorter and shorter for me, which is probably good but feels jarring and painful — as I realized that while they offered window openers and closers (which I don’t really want) and while they offer lock sensors (which are mildly interesting, but again, don’t really care) on a variety of doors and windows, they only offer a door opener/closer on the multislide (which, weird, and I don’t want), and the lock logic on the multislide which you get _with_ the opener/closer seems unacceptable. Basically, there’s a manual, and if it is set, you are not getting in from outside until someone goes inside and unsets it. And there’s a magnetic, which has to be set and unset from a button, app, wtf. So if you are inside, and the magnetic lock is set, egress requires you to push a button and you’d better hope it works. Not Okay.
It’s fine not to have remote access on the multislide, and the Marvin multislide is gorgeous, so I’m not messing with that choice. On to the other perimeter doors! They are all Marvins except one Simpson that is the door from the house to the garage. I’ll probably ask for a smart lock on that door, but Simpson’s do not come with hardware, so that’s pretty straightforward.
The rest of the Marvins are a problem, tho! Marvin uses their own proprietary multipoint lock. They have at least one patent from 2018 (I wasn’t looking, I swear, I just stumbled across it) on their Amesbury Shoot. They do not offer a lock/unlock from app, keypad, card system, biometric sensor, nothing. Lots of people have tried to retrofit it, and _if_ anyone has succeeded, it was a complex project and the results were pretty ugly. They don’t meet _my_ aesthetic standards, and they would probably void the warranty anyway. The Marvin rep we are working with is “researching” the following question the architect posed:
“I've seen the lock status hardware for the doors on the Marvin website, and am wondering if there is a wi-fi/keypad enabled lock system that allows you to actually lock and unlock the door rather than just read the locked/unlocked status. If there is an off the shelf solution, is that something that the walkitouts could check out at the Boston showroom?”
What a polite and innocent question. What seething cauldron of Nope lies underneath it.
Honestly, the fact that all these beautiful doors with multipoint hardware don’t advertise their multipoint hardware AND don’t advertise how they have no “smart” lock/unlock solution and no intention of developing one any time soon says so much about this industry, where it’s been and where it is resisting going.
Anyway. Panolocks all around, probably, except for the multislide, which you just won’t be able to remote unlock.
A. went to her Homework Cafe after English instead of her first Algebra class. Ooops. No one got her either, which, really? Oh well. Hopefully that’s work on Thursday, since it’ll be her first class of the day because the English teacher isn’t available and I’d rather reschedule the session vs. have a virtual sub. The previous virtual sub (Spanish, on last Thursday) did not work well for A.
We had dinner at Seasons 52 (A. and me). It was delicious.